Solex 23/36 CISC carburettor

The Solex 23/36 CISC carburettor was fitted to the 2CV, Dyane, Visa and LN(A).  Leaving aside the 652cc engines, there were two models fitted to the 602cc engines and they differ in the sizes of the chokes.

Information on these in the Citroën workshop manuals is contained in a few cross referenced tables which are just about intelligible if you are looking for information on a specific car but make it very hard to come up with a simple guide.  Not that I’m going to let that stop me – here’s my working overview of the main types of 23/36 carbs.

Car Reference First choke venturi [mm] (area [mm^2]) Second choke venturi [mm] (area [mm^2]) First choke main jet Second choke main jet Idle jet First choke air correction jet Second choke air correction jet Pump injector Needle valve seat
2CV/Dyane (1978-07)   197   21 (1385)   24 (1810) 120    70    40 1 F 2 2 AA   40 1.7 (Ball type)
2CV/Dyane (1980-07)/LN 225   18 (1018)   26 (2124) 102.5   87.5   39 1 F 2 2 AA   45 1.7 (Ball type)
Visa/LNA              209   21 (1385)   26 (2124) 125  130    41 120  160   40 170 (Ball type)

Notes:

Car: This is the car that used this carb, this is a rough guide – for more detailed information you’ll need to dig into the workshop manuals. Reference: The Solex reference that is supposedly on the carb, not found it on mine yet.  However, the venturi sizes are moulded onto the bowl either side of the Solex logo and that’s how you can tell which model you have.

The 197 (21-24) carb is sometimes referred to as a “Dyane carb”, probably because it seems to have first appeared on the M28 engine used in the Dyane. However, both 2CVs and Dyanes had this carb and then the latter – and more common – 225 (18-26) carb.









Spares or repair engine

As Judith is an original car, once the worn out parts are replaced there’s not going to be much to do.  As a result a long term plan has been hatched to build myself a Burton to give myself an automotive toy to play with.

With this in mind an opportunity presented itself in the form of a spares-or-repair 2CV engine on fleaBay.  I managed to pick it up with the opening bid as it was collection only.  Fortunately it wasn’t too far from TomB engineering so he did the honours for me and reported back with some photos.

Given I’m planning on rebuilding the engine with a 652cc “big bore” kit it looks like a pretty solid foundation and having a rebuilt and bench tuned engine will open up my options when it comes to the time to find a donor car.

Spares or repair 2CV engine
Spares or repair 2CV engine
Spares or repair 2CV engine
Spares or repair 2CV engine
Very tatty looking 2CV engine breather
2CV crank
Possibly 2CV air filter foam